THE PRAYING, PREACHING DOCTOR
Being able to handle stress and manage our time well
reflect sound mental health. Meet a man who is able to juggle many different
roles. Pastor Dr Philip Lyn, a medical
specialist who runs his own clinic, also serves as senior pastor of Skyline SIB,
Kota Kinabalu, Sabah. Dr Lim Poh Ann of Asian Beacon (AB) met up with him to uncover what makes him tick and more.
1.
AB:
Running your own clinic is challenging enough. How do you manage to be a pastor
as well?
Philip: Three handles help
me: Perspective, Priority and Planned neglect. Perspective means knowing and
seeing God’s big picture for me. It means not copying others but knowing the distinctives
of my life. Priority means fulfilling the various roles in my life: husband,
father, doctor, preacher and pastor. It’s hard but having an exceptional wife
and a supportive team help immensely. Nancy prays a lot and spends time patiently
listening to me when I think aloud. Planned neglect means cutting out non-essential
things I enjoy like medical talks, medical research, movies, MENSA and hobbies
like golf and badminton. I have to be selective in my reading. I regularly
combine ministry with short breaks and, if possible, meet up and bond with two
of our children now studying overseas.
2.
AB:
How did God call you into a pastoral role when you were already running a
clinic?
Philip: It was a divine “ambush”
really. In 2001, my previous church decided to plant a new church in Kota
Kinabalu city. As an itinerant preacher then, I had no desire to be a resident
pastor. Ultimately as there was no suitable person, I was asked to fill the
vacancy. Nancy and I sensed the Lord’s leading so I fearfully agreed. I thought
it’d be short-term but it has already been eight years.
3. AB: Prayer has been a prominent part of
your life and that of your church. Can you elaborate?
Philip: Like everyone else, I
struggle with prayer but I’m convinced pastors must pray and lead their flock
in prayer (Acts 6:4). I have known both heavenly and down-to-earth prayer. Skyline’s
growth was catalysed by prayer from day one. In the first year of the church,
it’s amazing that half of the church came for weekly prayer meeting. Last year
more than 30 of us gathered to pray daily at dawn for spiritual revival
throughout the year! Nancy my wife led it. So I joined her in many of the
morning prayers. She’s an amazing person – very discerning, prophetic and loves
praying. I also preach regularly on prayer.
My own prayer breakthrough
came in 1993 when I went to a prayer mountain in South Korea. I learned about
overnight prayer, fasting and spiritual warfare. We should emulate the Koreans who
pray unashamedly and passionately in public.
4.
AB:
How did Chinese Overseas Christian Mission (COCM) impact your spiritual
development?
Philip: COCM provided
opportunities for me to develop leadership qualities when I was a student in
Oxford, UK. Its director, Mary Wang became a personal friend and encouraged me
spiritually. I led the Chinese Christian Fellowship (CCF) in Oxford for several
years. That involved preaching sermons and doing student outreach.
Meanwhile, I received
excellent Bible expository preaching at the Christian Union (CU) of the
university from well-known teachers like John Stott and Michael Green. Strong
spiritual foundations built through the CU prepared me for service as a young
leader in the CCF. On Sundays I attended St Ebbe’s church where I was edified
by its uplifting sermons.
5.
AB:
How can believers in urban churches become “soldiers” for Christ?
Philip: By simplifying their
lifestyle, intentionally neglecting the good to embrace the best and taking time
to take stock and pray over neglected issues. Amid their busyness, they need to
serve from a state of spiritual rest. Above all, they need to grow in faith –
take God at His Word and apply it in all situations. Then, they’ll see God as real
and awesome.
6.
AB:
Do you think mentoring is important in leadership development?
Philip: I have never been
intentionally mentored – but I’m convinced it is far better to build leaders through
intentional discipleship and mentoring than to leave it to chance. Our church
does not subscribe to a single discipleship training method, being eclectic in
approach. However, we recognise intentional discipleship is a must though there
are many ways to skin a calf.
7.
AB:
How can church leaders work together with Christian entrepreneurs to advance
God’s kingdom?
Philip: As pastors we need
to change our mindset – break out from the four walls of the church and see the
9 to 5 window as an opportunity to influence and transform communities.
Pastors need to disciple marketplace
leaders in character and faith. The latter also need training by marketplace coaches.
Paradigms must change: Work is not just
for survival but ministry. Allowing marketplace leaders to share their journey
of faith on Sundays will powerfully impact the church and set people thinking
about opportunities for ministry and miracles in the 9 to 5 window.
8.
AB:
What is the role of modern technology in your church?
Philip: We depend a lot on
IT to track new believers and visitors. With 600 congregants, it is not easy to
stay in touch with everyone (cell groups help). I personally use texting (sms)
and email a lot. Once a week, I go to the church office, and once or twice a
month, I meet one-on-one with the other leaders.
All the eight Skyline pastors are bi-vocational,
sustaining themselves through jobs
outside the church. That’s highly unusual. Only the church
administrative staff members are in the church payroll. Thus the pastors are
often not in church. While technology is vital for staying in touch, it cannot
replace face-to-face meetings. We have spent a lot on media equipment and have
produced some excellent DVDs that have touched churches here and abroad.
9.
AB:
How do the church leaders stay in touch with your members?
Philip: We stay in
touch through various tiers and cell groups. Nancy my wife helps “feel the
grassroots” through her women’s network. My philosophy is to “pastor all, equip
many, disciple a few and mobilise a people.”
10. AB: What are some of the challenges which the
Malaysian church must rise up to?
Philip: The local church needs
leaders (both pastors and those in the marketplace) with character, competence and
courage – not just one or two but ALL these three qualities. We must fully
support those who are at the forefront of tackling issues such as injustice,
corruption and religious freedom. Meanwhile, it is heartening to witness the
rise of vibrant churches which reach out to a new generation through a less
traditional approach.
11. AB: Your daughter’s miraculous recovery from
strangulation was so dramatic. Have there been other equally dramatic
experiences in your life/ church?
My
daughter’s resurrection from accidental strangulation by a clothes line is a
significant faith milestone in my family and Skyline. It happened in 2002
when Sarah was only four. Other dramatic
healings include a woman with a fractured backbone instantly healed at an
evening service, a woman delivered from demons and promiscuity, a woman
instantly delivered from months of violent nightmares, a dumbstruck man healed,
a pre-surgery breast lump cleared and a hunchback made straight in one evening.
Nancy my wife was also instantly healed
from long-standing gastritis one night and later from a morbid fear of heights.
Since then she has climbed Mt Kinabalu twice!
Medically, I’m gob smacked, but that’s our God!
12. AB: How
do you strike a balance between service and seeking God’s face?
I’m
a natural Martha (like service) but when I get extended breaks, I love to be
like Mary and sit at the Lord’s feet. Besides my morning devotion, I seek God’s
face while “on the run” –practising His presence as I work, drive, meet others,
eat or rest. I talk to Him a lot. There is simply no other way as a bi-vocational
man. Praying freely with and for others in public and private is also a great
way of practising His presence. These habits keep the sword sharp and the
shield polished.
13. AB: What are some of the burning
issues/lessons you want to impart at the Prayer Conference at DUMC?
Whether our church is big or small … if
we quit praying, we “die”. People ought to hunger for God, for without an
appetite a feast is meaningless. I hope to impart practical handles on hearing
God, fasting, overnight prayer, praying in the Spirit, and praying in faith. Prayer
is caught rather than taught – that’s what Nancy and I hope to achieve at the
DUMC Prayer Conference.
14. AB: Have you ever felt overwhelmed by the load of
responsibilities?
Yes and No.
Yes
because it is a high calling and decisions I make affect so many lives; so a
wrong call humbles you. Occasionally challenges pile on in all five areas of my
life simultaneously (husband, father, doctor, pastor and preacher) and threaten
to crush me. In those times, centering on God and grasping the three handles of
perspective, priority and planned neglect helps a lot. My credo in such times
is: “God is in control. This too will pass.”
No
because most of what I do flow from my gifting and inner life. I may move out
of my comfort zone in experience and leadership but seldom in my gifting. If I
do, I get others to help me. My greatest friend is Nancy, my wife. Even if I
foul up bad, three persons still love me unconditionally: God, my wife and my
mother! In that order. That reduces the pressure and helps me realign!
15. AB:
What keeps you motivated? How do you recharge your battery?
I try to live life to the full each day. Keeping my mind
renewed, my conscience clean, my heart centered, my gifting oiled and my family
relationships healthy mean everything to me. They help recharge and motivate me
daily.
16. AB: Given a chance to start life all over again,
would you settle for the role of pastor-doctor?
I’ve always wanted to be a doctor. In university, I felt
inspired to be a preacher after hearing the great Dr Martyn Lloyd-Jones preach at
Oxford. So perhaps a preacher-doctor more than a pastor-doctor! But that’s my
natural man speaking. But God had better plans – He “ambushed” me and I became
a pastor as well. That has made the difference. I wouldn’t have befriended some
outstanding people and leaders had I not been pastoring a church. Also, I
wouldn’t have had the joy of seeing so many lives being radically transformed.
17. AB: Have there been instances when both
these roles clashed with one another? Or have they more often been
complementary?
When I was involved in inpatient hospital care, I could
be awake the whole night managing a patient and yet have to preach the
following morning. At other times, I was called away to treat patients in the middle
of meetings. Such instances are becoming less frequent as my practice now mainly
involves outpatient care.
Nowadays I find myself in a care-giving role in the
clinic, praying for patients, sharing the Good News and inviting them to my
church besides practising sound medicine. I connect with pre-believers in the
city through my medical practice. I meet new faces and that keeps me well-balanced
… keeps the evangelist in me alive.
The above article was first published in
Asian Beacon magazine, December 2009, issue 41.6.
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