A reader, Peter Sze, responded to my
post, “NO NEED TO CONFESS SIN?”
with the following comments:
This is a very clear example of the "straw man"
fallacy:
The straw man fallacy occurs in the following pattern of argument:
*Person 1 has position X.
*Person 2 disregards certain key points of X and instead presents the superficially similar position Y.
The position Y is a distorted version of X.
*Person 2 attacks position Y, concluding that X is false/incorrect/flawed.
RS picks up a line from JP's book without context, attack it vigorously, declares it as flawed and amazingly PAL holds it up, see... sigh.
Come on... the Bereans "listened eagarly to Paul" directly, not 2nd hand distorted messages.
The straw man fallacy occurs in the following pattern of argument:
*Person 1 has position X.
*Person 2 disregards certain key points of X and instead presents the superficially similar position Y.
The position Y is a distorted version of X.
*Person 2 attacks position Y, concluding that X is false/incorrect/flawed.
RS picks up a line from JP's book without context, attack it vigorously, declares it as flawed and amazingly PAL holds it up, see... sigh.
Come on... the Bereans "listened eagarly to Paul" directly, not 2nd hand distorted messages.
Abbreviations:
JP Joseph Prince.
RS Roger Sapp
PAL Poh Ann, Lim
MY
RESPONSE:
Peter, as I mentioned earlier in my
blog, I hope that believers will
become more open-minded: Whenever they hear a message or read a Christian book,
they should learn how to judge wisely its contents against scripture.
All of us love God. We want to see truth upheld and His name
glorified.
Perhaps you might not know this: When I read the book, "Destined to Reign", a year ago its theology gave me an uncomfortable feeling. On 19th Feb, I posted in my blog:
“Are the future
sins of Christians automatically
forgiven (FSAF)?” http://limpohann.blogspot.com/2013/02/future-sins-automatically-forgiven.html,
a post which shares some of the concerns RS has about the book.
So my opinions have already been
formed about this book even before I stumbled into RS’s Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYUKOtya_xs yesterday
(26th Feb). I didn’t just ride piggy back on someone else’s views.
When
a Christian author writes a book, he has to make sure that what he puts down is
able to stand the test of scripture, not just selected verses and passages but
the whole truth. Otherwise he might be inviting a barrage of comments.
Between
spoken and written word, the latter is more reliable and accurate. RS has
picked up what someone has written and given a specific reference (page,
line quoted) before he shows why such and such a position is not tenable.
As
the reference has already been clearly stated by RS, I cannot understand why
you bring up the term “straw man”. RS is not directing his comments against something
vague and nebulous.
Unlike
the believers of Berea, we are in a better position to judge the validity of a particular
teaching because it is often available in a well-recorded format (in this case,
a book or video) whereas the former could only judge based on Paul’s spoken
word (or hand-written manuscripts at best, if available).
“Reading maketh a full man, conference a ready man, and writing an exact man.” – Sir
Francis Bacon
We
are not the only ones who are able to judge whether the author or RS is right. Let
everyone read the book, watch the various YouTube videos (by RS pertaining to the
book and those by JP) and compare the contents of the book and video with scripture (Acts 17:11, 1 Cor.
2:14-16).
My hope is that Christians will become more open-minded: Whenever they hear a message or read a Christian book, they
should learn how to judge wisely its contents against scripture.
May the Holy Spirit help us to discern truth from error.
May the Holy Spirit help us to discern truth from error.
A Review of “Destined
to Reign” by Joseph Prince
http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/discernment/a-review-of-destined-to-reign-by-joseph-prince
Footnotes:
And the people of Berea were more open-minded than those in
Thessalonica, and they listened eagerly to Paul's message. They searched the Scriptures day
after day to see if Paul and Silas were teaching the truth.
(Acts 17:11).
The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come
from the Spirit of God but considers
them foolishness, and cannot
understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely
human judgments, for,
“Who has known the mind of
the Lord
so as to instruct him?”
so as to instruct him?”
But we have the mind of Christ.
(1
Corinthians 2:14 -16).
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